4X

Weekly eXchange #224 – Good Rants?

Join Nate and Troy as they bring you all the important information on all of your favorite 4X and strategy games! This week they talk about Civilization 6, Thea 2: the Shattering, Dominions 5, Age of Wonders: Planetfall, Endless Legend, Galactic Civilizations 3: Retribution, Alliance of the Sacred Suns and much much more. As well as continued coverage for your other favorite 4X and strategy games.

Music for eXplorminate by Mangadrive

Show Notes: 

  1. Civilization 6 update – 01:36
  2. Thea 2 update – 11:42
  3. Dominions 5 update – 16:49
  4. Age of Wonders: Planetfall update – 23:20
  5. Endless Legend update – 28:53
  6. Galactic Civilizations 3 update – 31:41
  7. Alliance of the Sacred Suns update – 38:14
  8. Total War: Three Kingdoms update – 39:38
  9. Armello update – version 2.0 – 41:05
  10. What is… Motorgrid? – 42:22

Games played – 44:38

  1. Sid Meier’s Colonization on GOG
  2. Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes Steam page
  3. World of Tanks Blitz Steam page
  4. Thea 2: The Shattering Steam page
  5. Aggressors: Ancient Rome Steam page
  6. Offworld Trading Company Steam page
  7. Nate, it’s “Ranty McRantersooOOON!!!”, with a pronounced accent at the end! Love, candies and kisses – Joe.

 

16 replies »

  1. i avoid games with redshell, currently 2-3 that i don’t buy (like Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden).
    of course you have to make concessions to use all the new stuff on computers (i.e. a gaming platform like steam) but if you don’t draw lines anymore where it is too much you just have lost all privacy.
    i always get into a discussion with friends that say protecting personal data is important but have an alexa at home or use social media like crazy.

    thanks for another good show!

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  2. K I think you missed the point. I wasnt asking you to tell people how to feel about spyware. The issue is that gamers arnt informed which games are selling their IP address and windows/webcam/microphone security settings to hackers (stuff that isnt on your starbucks or grocery card btw). Your computer security depends on being just one of 1 billions of anonymous computer out there. This information give a map to the homes of the most vulnerable. There are plenty of gamers who just dont know they are making a choice by installing certain games on their computer.

    You are making the argument that since child sex abuse is already rampant in churches there is nothing we can do and we should just embrace it or look the other way. I am saying let the public know which churches have a history of this behavior and let individuals decide. By providing advertising and hype for these products without disclaimer that these games will undermine your data security systems you are taking the choice away from gamers who might not know better.

    Why are you embracing being a victim so easily? This is chicken and egg. Is privacy non existent on the web or are you giving it away willingly by rolling over?..out of apathy? or depression. Sure you might not care about -your- privacy but what about the 14yo kid who isnt mature and knowledgeable enough to make that choice?

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  3. You also passed on classic misinformation by comparing things like Steam to Redshell. Yes Steam and all Unity games gather statistics. But there is a HUGE difference between Steam gathering statistics for theoretically “internal/game developer” use and what Innervate/Redshell and 2k/Firaxis’ are doing openly selling your information to 3rd parties in foreign countries for $$$ on the data market.

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  4. Evrett, you have the go ahead to write a 6k word piece about your thoughts. Please provide references and stay away from insults and accusations. We’ll put it through our vigorous editing process and if the editorial staff approves… I’ll publish it. Interested? If yes, chill out with the attacks. If not, I’m going to start editing your posts. I’m tired of your attacks. This is not a democracy!

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  5. Great show.

    I don’t have time to post in the comments much these days but I haven’t missed an episode since back when Rob was part of the Weekly Exchange. I just hope you guys realise that even if there aren’t loads of comments every week there are still loads of us listening to and enjoying the shows.

    Recently i’ve been playing Civ 6 Gathering Storm, trying out the new content, although to be honest i’m a bit disappointed in the pretty basic World Congress they’ve implemented and the underwhelming disasters. I get the impression from the show that Troy doesn’t hold Civ 6 in very high regard right now, I’m not sure which parts of it he dislikes (?) but it’s always good when you two give your genuine opinions on the games you’re reporting – it makes the show more interesting.

    I’m also planning to get Retribution in the next couple of days, although I am slightly apprehensive about that as despite Brad calling it their biggest expansion to date when I read the actual feature list it really doesn’t sound particularly packed full of content – each addition looks quite minor in isolation. Hopefully it’ll feel better as a package when I actually get to play it.

    Age of Wonders Planetfall release date was announced recently.. August 6th if I remember correctly. That seems so far away! But I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait.

    Thanks again for another great show. Oh, and I love a good rant from time to time! :-)

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  6. Motorgrid sounds a lot like the old board game Battlecars.

    I get a sense that the huge enthusiasm for Planetfall is waning somewhat. Is that fair to say?

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  7. Great show as always guys, thanks!

    Hugs to Nate. Never easy to say goodbye to a family member, even if they have lived a long and full life.

    I found it fairly hard to find details about the different kinds of information Civ6 will send home to be sliced and diced and sold. The T&C sounded awful and if there was actually way for Civ6 to *get* half of that I’d have trashed it and never looked back. But it turns out that the vast majority of that is associated with your 2K Account – if you don’t have one, Civ6 sends very little, as far as anyone can figure out. So it turns out the review bombing and bad press is, technically, overblown.

    That said, I feel no sympathy for Firaxis/2K. Zero. None.

    I’m not quite as cynical as some, but when games became Big Business it seems “lets make something fun that people will pay for” was mostly replaced with “let’s find devious ways to wring as much value as possible from these suckers!” Kind of disheartening. Thank goodness for Indies.

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    • Because he is a mouth breathing idiot. I was hoping that 6K words would either discourage him from continuing in his idiotic ways or get him to sit down and put his thoughts in order and provide support for his tinfoil-hat (necessity) theories. Unfortunately, he went on a rampage and said some really horrible things, and I had to edit his post and de-authorize his posting. He is no longer welcome here.

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    • This is what censorship looks like Evrett. Not because I’m a tyrant, but because you have a foul mouth, a poor attitude and a very nasty disposition. Please go away. Take your garbage self and go find some like minded people and proceed to crap on one another. We, here at eXplorminate, do not tolerate such disgusting and abhorrent behavior. Have a nice day.

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  8. Sorry for the delay but came down with the flu and fell way behind on my podcasts…

    That said, with respect to Dominions, Nate – I totally understand having trouble getting into the game (it took me several tries before I got into it myself). Its very different from other 4X games and it doesn’t hide details. However, when you first start its very hard to know what is important and what isn’t which can easily be overwhelming. But for my follow up question, let’s flip your reasoning around because I think the same rational can be applied to any Warhammer game:

    For a gamer who is completely unfamiliar with the Warhammer mythos and history, would you recommend a game like Gladius (or other well reviewed Warhammer-universe games)? In other words, do you think that you need to be well-versed in the lore of this universe to enjoy and appreciate these games?

    Finally – to clear up some misconceptions:

    While the Warhammer universe is steeped in lore, the Dominions universe is not. I have played it since Dom4 but I do not know the details of the mythologies from which the nations/pretenders/heroes are drawn. Yes I can recognize when one nation is derived from the Greek, Chinese or Aztec mythos. You don’t need to know any of that to play much less enjoy the game. There is no historical “lore” that you are fighting in. I sometimes read the flavor text because it can be interesting but that is not per se necessary to enjoy the game. You can certainly dig deep into that lore but its not necessary.

    Also, you have a misconception that the manual is required reading before you play the game. It is definitely not necessary. The manual is more technical, explaining the details of the mechanics of the game. Also, 2/3-rds of the manual is tables/charts that you would never “read” from cover to cover. There is a ton of useful information in the manual, but for the most part that won’t be needed because the information is already available in-game until you are sufficiently deep into the game that niggling little details matter. Also – having a manual is a good thing. Most games just don’t have any documentation. I remember the old days when I would get a new game and read the manual in detail before even played. It was all part of the “experience”. Nowadays you are lucky if there is any instruction at all.

    The “lore” of the game is fully contained in the description of your nation and the unit descriptions. There is not an extensive lore to be learned from the manual.

    When I learned Dom4, there were no youtube tutorials. As I said above, the hard part is that there is so much information its hard to know what is important and what is not. These video tutorials should greatly simplify that issue, showing you what a seasoned player looks at first and foremost.

    I completely understand being pressed for time Nate, between work, family, and whatever personal obligations you have on your time. Dominions isn’t “easy” and so if you don’t have the time or the enthusiasm to get into it, that is completely understandable and in itself is a perfectly good answer. Dominions is hard – not because its complex per se, but because its different. Different in a way that people who have figured it out tend to love. Its not a small iteration on the traditional 4X’s that are churned out regularly by Amplitude, Paradox, Firaxis, or Stardock (just to name a few). That’s why its worth playing for people who love 4X but want something different and is a must for people who are interested in 4X design.

    But – just to be clear to anyone who is reading this – you DO NOT need to read a 400 page manual before you can play Dominions. And you do not need to learn the lore behind 30-80 factions to understand the context of, play, enjoy or appreciate Dominions.

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