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Weekly eXchange #177 – Troy’s Rant!

Join Nate and Troy as they bring you all the important information on all of your favorite 4X and strategy games! This week they talk about Stars in Shadow, Galactic Civilizations 3, Endless Space 2, Stellaris, Space Tyrant, Thea 2, Eador: Imperium and much much more. As well as continued coverage for your other favorite 4X and strategy games!

Music for eXplorminate by Mangadrive

Show Notes:

  1. Stars in Shadows update – 01:58
  2. Galactic Civilizations 3 Update – 05:43
  3. Endless Space 2 update – 09:35
  4. Stellaris Update – 12:36
  5. Space Tyrant Dev posting in the forums – 17:16
  6. Thea 2 update – 20:45
  7. Eador: Imperium update – 26:51
  8. Europa Universalis update – 28:28
  9. Total War Saga: Thrones of Britannia update – 30:17
  10. Star Control Update and “Star Control: So you want to build a planet?” and Strange Settlement on an Alien Planet – 32:50
  11. XCOM 2: War of the Chosen eXcursion is up – 41:25
  12. Steam increased its revenue by almost 1 billion last year – 42:40
  13. Amazon offering a game dev platform – 47:48
  14. Ubisoft gets in bed with Tencent – 50:28
  15. Troy’s Rant about Free Speech – 53:04
  16. Audible eXtension For Civilization VI: A Double Feature!

Games played – 1:08:17

  1. World of Tanks Blitz Steam page
  2. Stellaris Steam page

 

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  1. Guys you are really missing Horizon!! as is way better than at realese, and is also turn based combat as you know and with no starlines, well anyway is like a year and half since last patch, but of the lastest space 4xs is the better one, at least for me, and the more near to Moo2 without the micro hell-drama by end game, also has a very smart and real research system, were you can focus what thing you want 1st in each of the 6 research fields.
    And im very interested in see how will be L3O´s new game Horizon 2?, currently under early development by the way.

    Well i will love to see a reexamination of Horizon from someone here, but i guess it wont happen as its very old by now, anyway you all definitily need to refer more to Horizon as after all the patches it got, is like an unknown gold-like space 4x game Gem and so far the most closest to the MOO feel well maybe except for the cartoonish-like stars in shadow, imho Horizon is way better in the looks tho.

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  2. The guy didn’t say “some dumb think”. He said “gas the Jews”. Publicly. On YouTube. The freedom of speech doesn’t cover it (I hope).

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    • In countries run by tyrannical authoritarians, no it doesn’t. But in countries run by people who believe in human rights, free speech means free – even if that means letting people express disgusting oppinions. Take a look around modern society. Think about how many people now have rights that didn’t just 50 or 60 years ago. Those groups had to express oppinions considered offensive for their time in order to get the change they wanted. If government controlled speech, if we were allowed to only say things the government deems acceptable, then we’d still have segregation and there’d be no marriage equality. What Scottland did was hideously tyrannical. They’re the fascists, not this Count Dankula jerk. When you support what Scottland did, you’re supporting the likes of Bull Connor and Joseph MacCarthy.

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      • Well, I believe in many countries there are limits to what you can state publicly – for instance here in Slovakia you “cannot deny the crimes of Fascism and Communism” as it is punishable by law (which I believe is also true for many more European countries in this or a similar sense). This is not about free speech, this is about hate-spreading and igniting race- or religion-based malice (which that Youtube guy did in my mind). No sensible man should say anything like “send that part or society into gas chambers”.

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      • But who gets to decide what is sensible, Joe? And what if the people who get to decide changes? Would you be comfortable with a group of people who don’t believe the communists and fascists committed crimes coming to power and having the ability to change what speech is allowed and what isn’t? The problem with giving government the power to dictate what thoughts can be uttered and what can’t is that governments change. Times change. Once government takes that kind of power, there’s always the risk it will be used to oppress and suppress the very people it was meant to protect. What recourse will they have then? What will they do after decades of saying, “Yeah, limit that speech!” when their speech is suddenly limited?

        In the end, it’s not about being a sensible human being or not. It’s about the tyrannical power of the State and how in a time of upheaval, the people in charge of that power could radically change and be entirely justified in using it in a way not intended. And do we not live in a time of radical upheaval? Is it so hard to believe that a group of crazies could capture enough power in countries across the world to pull off such a feat? I feel it’s not, and I also feel that suppressing speech only causes it to spread further. How many people have watched that dumb video who never would have seen it otherwise now that Count Dankula has been prosecuted? Suppression, throughout history, has never once been a viable long-term strategy. It always ends in rebellion.

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      • Unfortunately I do not have a wide knowledge of this subject to reason further. It’s just that I feel certain limits in life are healthy (be it on the proclaimed “total freedom of speech”, on “children can do whatever they want” or for instance the “freedom to buy any small-medium-assault-automatic guns you want to”, that brings more harm to the US than good.

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      • My relatives had died on that war. I know people who’s relatives where actually gassed. So I’m glad the law (which is the entity separate from the government) in the most democratic countries strongly disagree with people like Amber and Troy.

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  3. Regarding Stars in Shadow and the new busbar components for the Orthin: the Shield Capacitor is the intended component to fill the busbar slot. The other options are provided for the cases where a) the player hasn’t yet researched the appropriate technology, or b) for players who don’t want to be bothered with the micromanagement of the tactical abilities of the Shield Capacitor.

    Thanks for covering the patch, and keep up the fight.

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  4. Just my 2 cents but I think that Troy’s rant is a bit off base as it wasn’t even gaming related much less 4X related. Free speech means different things in different countries and applying America’s standard of free speech to other nations is fraught with issues on top of being potentially biased from the beginning.

    My preference would be that if you want to have that kind of discussion on eXplorminate I understand and support that decision BUT I think you should make that its own mini-show/episode so that people know what they are getting into and then try to get into the details. For example here is a topic I don’t see discussed frequently: free speech was conceived of in a pre-internet era, does the internet/social media change that? Should it?

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    • “For example here is a topic I don’t see discussed frequently: free speech was conceived of in a pre-internet era, does the internet/social media change that? Should it?”

      This is a great idea for a XX in a StraX roundtable actually, as it pertains to 4X and Strategy gaming of course.

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  5. Let me preface this by saying I haven’t had a chance to listen to this episode yet…Im just responding to the comments here.

    Many people have a misconception that free speech in the US means freedom from consequences. They also think it applies to non-government entities, but it does not. Put simply, the first amendment means that the government cannot come after you for saying things the people in power don’t like. That’s all. It’s important but it doesn’t extend everywhere.

    My personal belief is that in this age of information, if we don’t decide what is acceptable speech democratically, corporations will decide for us. People are afraid of giving more power to the government because it might be abused, but what other entity is accountable to the people? Corporations like Alphabet (google), Facebook, and Conde Nast are already making these decisions, but their core reasoning has to do with saving on moderation costs and appearing socially acceptable for advertisers to be associated with. Anyone ever heard of people having their videos demonitized? Facebook censoring topics and keywords? Reddit banning subreddits? Yeah, it’s all about maintaining advertising cash flow by avoiding making people mad enough to leave the platform. Right now, advertisers and algorithms control the internet.

    Automation will (is) cause problems in this area, not just in manufacturing. I think the only acceptable solution I’ve encountered is to simply run projects using crowd funding. Advertisers simply don’t have the public’s best interest in mind when they throw their financial weight around.

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    • Not sure the internet really changes the free speech calculus, or should. While distribution is vastly cheaper and faster, the underlying dynamic established with the printing press would still seem generally applicable. I don’t know about other countries, but in the US there is no exception to the 1st Amendment’s free speech protections for “hate speech.” After all, one person’s hate speech is another person’s painful truth and popular speech has never needed protection, those protections matter for unpopular opinions (whether unpopular with the majority or even just with those in authority).

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